SUBJECTS: Immigration reform, Temporary visas, Student visas
SUBJECTS
Immigration reform, Temporary visas, Student visas
TOM CONNELL, HOST: Minister, I’d like to go to how you want voters to view your speech today. There’s the title, “Who arrives, who stays, who leaves”, and there’s the deportations that will be happening. Would you be comfortable if voters cast their minds back to John Howard saying, “We will decide who comes here and under what terms”? Not the same policy area, and I’m not saying you agree with John Howard, but that element of “taking sovereignty back”, is that something you would be comfortable with voters thinking back to?
TOM CONNELL, HOST:
MINISTER BURKE: I’m never afraid of the word “sovereignty”. Never afraid of it. When I went through the acknowledgements at the start, I acknowledged Brett Sonter as the Commander of Operation Sovereign Borders. Sovereignty of Australia matters, and people want to know there is a system. The fact that, in the life of this Government, for more than a decade now, nobody who has arrived without a visa has been able to stay in Australia is part of the integrity that people expect. People do want Australia to be able to have a visa system. And what we need to make sure of now as we go to the next layer, where people do come on a visa but try to effectively work around for the visa system to deliver outcomes that Australia would never intend. And that's what I want us to be able to do.
MINISTER BURKE:
JOURNALIST: Hello, Minister. Thank you very much for your address today. I wanted to ask you about the part of your speech, the story that's - the bit that needs to be written, rather, about protection claims. It's obviously an issue that the Government is grappling with. There have been reports that the Government was considering removing the work rights of temporary visa holders whose claims had been rejected by Home Affairs. Are the reports about putting time frames on the application of a protection visa - are these measures still on the table? Are they being considered by the Government? If you were to pursue a legislative option down the track?
JOURNALIST:
MINISTER BURKE
JOURNALIST: Hi, Minister. Thank you for outlining what sounds like a devilish equation you’re dealing with. I wanted to ask about something more immediate. The last few days, I have been to a number of media conferences from your political opponents talking about the immediate problem of shortage of workers to do things like getting the harvest in, catching seafood for our Christmas dinner, pouring beers in pubs across Northern Australia. So, I understand we're talking about a policy framework, but out in the real world, people are unable to bring the crops in. What are you doing about it?
JOURNALIST:
MINISTER BURKE: OK. As I said, working holiday maker processing is now being restored and we'll be moving through those again. Effectively - and this is why I refer to legislation - the more tools and levers that are available, the more sharply I can target the system to be able to slow down to get housing in front, and to minimise the impact on the Australian economy. And so the working holiday maker change goes to exactly what you described. Similarly, the new Ministerial Direction, replacing Ministerial Direction 119 with the elevation of agriculture and fisheries for processing priority, goes to exactly what you've said as well.
MINISTER BURKE:
JOURNALIST: Just quickly on the numbers on working holidays, so ballot systems, the number of visas goes down, but obviously you hope for oversupply of people doing the hours, hoping they win the ballot? What's the net impact? Is it hopefully we'll have the same number of workers but not staying as long? Would it be a net negative?
JOURNALIST:
MINISTER BURKE: Well ultimately, the section where you get the definite drop-off in significant numbers is actually year three. And year three is the year where there is no obligation to work in the regions at all.
MINISTER BURKE:
JOURNALIST: Thank you for your speech. I'd like to ask you about people who stay, so you talk about people who come, people who stay, and people who leave. Are one of the large groups of people who stay are people on 485 visas, otherwise post-study work rights visas. These are people who have completed a degree usually and get to stay in Australia for longer. Under that program, the largest - by far the largest group that uses the 485 visa are Indians. I think just under 40% of all people who were granted visas in 2025-26 were from India. Under the free trade agreement with India, they get an extra year. Is this special carve-out for people from India going to stay or is that under question as well?
JOURNALIST
MINISTER BURKE: We are working within all free trade agreements in everything that I've said. There are free trade agreements all over my portfolio. Almost the entirety of the working holiday maker system is dealt with through a series of free trade agreements. I referred to the UK, but it's not the only one. And, effectively, for these different parts of the system, these are always concessions that were offered by Australia, and in return for those concessions there are other benefits that have delivered Australian jobs. And so we're not about to undermine that.
MINISTER BURKE:
JOURNALIST: Thanks, Minister. You're at 292 now on the NOM, as released today. You mentioned some numbers about the third year of the working holiday visa. Do you know to get down to 245 and 225, how many- what the visa cuts will be in each individual class? And just on you doing this speech, the Prime Minister has a stubborn streak, as of last week he was telling cabinet colleagues that he didn't want you to do this speech in this forum, so how did you change his mind?
JOURNALIST:
MINISTER BURKE: At the... you must be one of the ones who wrote it! When it was published that I was not going to be giving this speech in this forum, the first time that I saw it having been published was a day after the Prime Minister and I had had a conversation confirming that I would be speaking here. So, it was a bit hard for me to go back and say, "I'm upset that you're not agreeing to something," that he had agreed to yesterday that journalists were saying he hadn't. The fact... Look, can I just say, I'm the Minister for Home Affairs. If I were to spend my whole life dealing with stories that were written that were untrue, that's all I'd spend my time doing. It's the nature of the portfolio. But when it was published, I can only say the Prime Minister and I had already had a conversation confirming that it would be here.
MINISTER BURKE:
JOURNALIST: Do you know how much each visa class comes down by to reach the targets, or just on working holiday visas, do you have a number?
JOURNALIST:
MINISTER BURKE: The numbers are in the materials that are being made available that go through it, but can I say all of it's a little bit deceptive. When you're dealing with something like
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